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Overhauling fitness & running with the power of nutrition with Neal Spruce! Ep89

#089 – What if you could enhance your running performance simply by tweaking your nutrition? That’s exactly what we explore in our enlightening conversation with Neal Spruce, CEO of DotFit, who’s made it his life’s mission to revolutionize fitness and health through proper diet and exercise. Neal takes us through his personal journey, from finding solace in sports to becoming a champion bodybuilder, underlining the crucial role nutrition played in his success.

Topics Covered:

  • Learn the importance of incorporating proper nutrition into a running routine
  • Understand the difference between mass market and practitioner products 
  • Discover essential nutrition basics that everyone should consider, regardless of their chosen sport or activity
  • Explore how to ward off illnesses before they strike with preventive measures

Today’s Guest

Neal Spruce

Neal Spruce, a former champion bodybuilder, through the strategic alignment of resources has founded, owned, operated and partnered to build some of the largest and most successful fitness brands in the business such as Gold’s Gym, Apex Fitness, National Academy of Sports Medicine (NASM), the bodybugg, 24Hour Fitness, and others. 

Neal is the CEO of dotFIT, a company focused on Nutrition Solutions For Exercisers and Athletes. Most recently, Neal developed the evidence-based fitness programming company, dotFIT Worldwide, joined the NASM advisory board and became an investment partner for fibr, the one stop shop for everything the fitness industry needs. His vision and deep understanding of creating resources for club operators and fitness professionals has led him to be one of the most respected entrepreneurs in the industry.

Neal delivers more than 100 lectures annually on sport and fitness topics. He has been a featured speaker on more than 300 radio and television talk shows and hosted his own television fitness show in San Francisco.

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Richard Conner: [00:00:00] Hey, everyone. Are you getting the most out of your workouts or at the very least giving your body what it needs on a daily basis? Well, we’re going to answer that question with an excellent conversation that I had with Neil spruce, CEO of DotFit and he’s going to share with you proper nutrition for everyday runners like myself or competitive athletes that are going after their next podium. Hope you enjoy

Hi everyone. Welcome to Inspire to Run podcast. Today we’re sitting down with a special guest, Neil Spruce. Neil is a former champion, bodybuilder, and through the strategic [00:01:00] alignment of resources, has founded, owned and operated and partnered to build some of the largest and most successful fitness brands in the business, such as Gold’s Gym.

Apex Fitness National Academy of Sports Medicine, the Body Bug, 24-Hour Fitness, and others. Neil is the C E O DotFit, a company focused on nutrition solutions for exercisers and athletes. Welcome to the show, Neil.

Neal Spruce: Thanks very much. I’m honored to be here, Richard.

Richard Conner: The Honor is all mine. I’ve used your products in the past, and literally it’s been a game changer for me. So it’s exciting to have you here to talk about your background and the great solutions that you have for athletes. And today we’re gonna talk in particular about runners and how your products can help runners.

And you know, nutrition is just not a topic that’s, I think it’s well talked about, but still not maybe well known or understood or followed by, by runners or, or many athletes. So this is a very important topic, so super excited to have you here.

Neal Spruce: Great, and [00:02:00] you’re a hundred percent. Not right about nutrition for some reason, you know, just kinda lives all by itself and it’s so personal. That’s what’s different, you know, because the, the type of foods people eat. But there, there are just some very simple things that you need to do cuz without nutrition, you don’t recover.

You know, you, your, your next workout day, your next running day, your next game day is only as good as your recovery from the last, and that’s where all your nutrition comes in. You don’t eat, you just shrink and die.

Richard Conner: That’s,

Neal Spruce: you wanna make sure you eat the right stuff. I always just tell people, you know, to your point there, I always tell people, you know, exercise sets the stage for what you want to happen.

But don’t forget, exercise does not build performance. Exercise does not build muscle. It doesn’t, it only tears it down. So in, in a runner’s, uh, uh, analogy, so if you’re a runner and you just did a three mile run, if you stopped. And say, okay, I’m gonna run those three miles again. Are you gonna go faster or slower?

Richard Conner: Probably

Neal Spruce: [00:03:00] you’re gonna be slower. Yeah. So what, so the whole point of that is, you know, you gotta refuel. So again, and if you don’t refuel properly, you, you’re just not gonna be as good as you could be. You know? So that’s kind of what the way it always goes. So n. Exercise sets the stage. It’s a trigger event for what you want to happen next in your body as you recover.

Nutrition makes the movie bad nutrition, bad movie, same nutrition, same movie, which means you come to a plateau when you can’t get to the next level.

Richard Conner: Love it. Love it. Really excited to get into this conversation, but you’re, you’re so right about that, and I want to go a little bit deeper to, you know, help our community and help our listeners understand what is it about nutrition that they should know and what they should. Should be doing. But let’s, let’s start a little bit with you just to hear your story first.

So what kind of led you, you know, first into sports and then what led you to found DotFit?

Neal Spruce: Yeah, I mean, for me, I just, I grew up, you know, kind of a, on my own in the streets and, you know, lived with a few, quite a few families before I was 16. And, but they always, you know, they, they took care of me and that was, that was all good. And [00:04:00] I, but I played ball. I played, uh, basketball and football on a regular basis all the way through high school.

At the same time, I was a bit of an outlaw. I would run with motorcycle gangs, so I have a kind of unusual childhood, if you will, but what saved my life from going too deep into the gangs was, uh, football. And because, you know, it was sports. Sports is what, what, what kept me out? I mean, all my friends that I grew up with are dead or in jail.

I was the one, one person left. So when I, I looked around me and I realized it was sports that kept me out of that deep, cause I love sports that much. And then that all led into bodybuilding. And bodybuilding was the watershed event for me because once I started working out, I real, everything was about nutrition.

If you know anything about bodybuilders, the, the workouts the easy, fun part. Your whole life is nutrition. You make all your food, you eat six times a day, you’ve got your protein, your macros count all the way. And then when you start dieting, you know you have to go to a place that you’ve never been before all the way around to get your skin.

Just have all your listeners right now pinch the skin on the back of their hand. [00:05:00] Now imagine that is how thick your skin has to be over your whole body when you go up on stage and compete and you gotta work out four hours a day. And you gotta diet, which means you’re dying, you know? So I learned so much about nutrition.

I realized that nutrition can change. You can change the body within a week the way it looks with nutrition. You can’t do that with exercise, right? You can have a better, a much better workout when you eat properly before you get there and you recovered after that. So I realized all that and that’s how I fell in love with nutrition.

I realize that you, you know, nutrition is pretty much everything. Again, you can live without exercise. You can’t live without food. So you gotta, when you combine the two, you know, you’ve gotta just do it right to get the most out of it. And, you know, and being a competitive athlete like I was, and of course you now and, uh, and your listeners, that’s what it’s all about.

Just, you know, getting it right for you, personalizing it that way. So that’s how I got involved with it. Fell in love with it started all the businesses that you know, you, a couple of ones you mentioned. I was lucky enough the, to start with goals [00:06:00] gym when there was only the Venice gym. And so I ran the whole nutrition program internationally for them as we blew that up.

Uh, and then, uh, off with, uh, national Academy of Sports Medicine. That was my company for many years. I think you, everybody pretty much knows that’s the largest in the world for personal training, education, sports medicine, education and so forth. And then we have, uh, and then of course the body bug was, was also my creation, which is the front runner to, uh, Fitbit and all the other ones that was the front runner.

We had the Biggest Loser. So we hit a home run right off the bat with all that. And so it just all connected to nutrition. All of it was the, that was the, uh, sort of the hub of everything. We did 24 Hour Fitness, that we were the first ones to put nutrition into personal training. My partner Mark Mastro, who’s my.

Partner today and, uh, everything. And you know, we just, if he’s a founder of 24 Hour Fitness, I was just lucky enough to be, be able to merge my company Apex into the holding company for that. And nutrition became really a huge part of the personal training model, and it still is today with U F C Crunch and all your.

Bigger, uh, you know, bigger brands that are out [00:07:00] there. Nutrition is still that important and we, you know, in incorporate it in everything. So that’s how it all happened. That’s why I still do it and DotFit is that nutrition platform that we incorporate into all of these. And we ended up being, now currently we are the largest distributor in all, all the NFL, uh, all of the NBA, uh, all of major League baseball with largest distributor of dietary supplements and nutrition programs.

Richard Conner: That’s incredible. Well, congratulations on all of your success, and I actually didn’t know that that’s, uh, that’s news to me. And that’s wonderful to hear. And like I said, you have great products, so it’s, it’s no surprise, um, that you have all of the success. And you know what, you, kind of going back to what you said about bodybuilding, and I’m trying to compare that to, let’s say a runner.

So is, is a runner may not think. Well, I’m not a body may think, I’m not a bodybuilder, so why do I have to pay so much attention to nutrition? Like, I don’t, I don’t wanna bulk up necessarily, and maybe it’s just not important. And I think that’s a common misconception, right? Even for your performance as a runner, you still need to [00:08:00] pay attention to nutrition.

So I love, you know, kind of how you describe the, the exercise part, but also the proper nutrition as part of your recovery.

Neal Spruce: On that note, I would argue it’s more important for runners if you’re a competitive runner. If you’re not a competitive runner, it doesn’t matter. Go to McDonald’s once in a while. Do what you want to do and, you know, eat, when you eat, eat your three or four meals a day or whatever you’re gonna do.

You know, you know, maybe take, always take your multivitamin mineral and you’re good to go. Okay? But if you are, if you are a runner and you’re a competitive runner, it is all about loading up your glycogen stores, getting everything, the recovery of all that, and then recovering all your fibers that if you’re especially here for ultra endurance.

I dunno if you’ve ever seen, you know, you should see pictures of what fibers look like after a three four mile or an Iron Man or any of these things. They’re just like shattered. Okay? And so this, and that’s all nutrition that repairs it. Nothing else repairs it except nutrition. So, you know, that’s what’s the incoming food.

There’s, we extract all those [00:09:00] nutrients to repair those fibers. And if you don’t repair ’em all the way, you get micro tears and next thing you know, you got, you know, a few months down the road you got an injury. So these are the, they just don’t re because your body’s trying to repair it and you’re not giving it all the material to repair it.

So runners, and so that’s just the repair part. The runners also cuz they go through, you know, ultra endurance. Obviously they put their bodies through way more than a bodybuilder, puts it through in a workout. We just lift heavy shit. Okay. So that’s, that was not anymore. Of course I’m a, uh, I’m a, that’s, my wife says I’m half the man she married, you know, and, and I’m the incredible shrinking man.

My kids call me, you know, because I, because I used to be this 270 pound freak. Now I’m 165 pounds soaking wet. But you know that. So the but so runners not have to just recovery, but they have to fill up their energy stores. Every bit of energy in the human body comes from what we eat, every 100% of it.

That produces the glucose that you’re using as you’re running and doing all those things. And then we have to store, we have stores. We want to get our glycogen stores full so we can run. If we don’t [00:10:00] hit the wall, we can run hard all the way to the end and so forth. So that’s all about loading properly.


Richard Conner: Love it.

Neal Spruce: Many runners. Runners have more, even more, more so than a basketball player, more so than a football player, cuz they’re just constant motion.

Richard Conner: Yeah, and, and that’s one of the first things when I started working with Coach Kevin. One of the first things we started talking about is nutrition. And, you know, we’ll talk about the products in a little bit, the specific products that I use, and then we could talk about if that’s, you know, all of what you would recommend for runners.

But I really didn’t see the performance improvement that I wanted. Until I started following that, that program. So that helped me kind of in my running journey. And you know, honestly, I’m not a competitive runner necessarily, but I want to perform, I want to do better at each race and I want to be able to train to reach certain goals.

So I’m not, I don’t know if I’m necessarily be on the podium as some of my, you know, my peers, but. I wanna do better and I wanna do better for, for myself and do things that I never thought I could do. And that’s kind of been the [00:11:00] journey that I’ve been on for a few years. So, you know, we’ll talk a little bit about the products, but what I’d love to know, uh, from, you know, your perspective is what makes DotFit different maybe compared to, you know, other offering on the market.

Neal Spruce: Yeah, that, that’s an easy one for us cuz we’re not, we don’t, we’re not sold in the mass market. There’s a reason for that. Mass market’s got a horrible reputation. That’s why scientists will even tell you don’t bother with supplements, cuz they’re not tested. They’re not this, they, anybody can put in. And Amazon, they get busted all the time for selling products that, you know, they don’t meet label claims.

It’s not, it’s not Amazon’s fault and it’s not GNC’s fault. None. The retailers, they’re just carrying stuff. They don’t know they, they’re, they can’t test things when they come in there. They’re just going by advertising. We’re a practitioner product, which means we go through professionals like Kevin, like your coach.

Your coach is, Smart enough to understand that we don’t want to send you to G NNC or to Amazon or some, you know, because you’re gonna buy on price, you know, and that’s just not the right way to buy things that are going inside your body. Outside [00:12:00] your body. I could care less, you know, you shop on price, but inside the body, obviously you want something, you know, works.

So ours are, and you know, you get other supplements, companies out there will say, oh, ours are scientifically formulated. Okay, prove it. Show me the peer review references on the ingredients, the amounts, and the dosages and forms that showed positive clinical outcomes. And they won’t be able to, of course, because they, they’ll, they’ll, they’ll un, they’ll under reformulate and they know that a member, uh, someone going in to buy something doesn’t know the right.

They know what they’re looking for. They’re looking for creatin, they’re looking for B6 or B12 or B vitamin, you know, or they’re looking for an antioxidant, but they don’t know the amounts are accurate, matched to clinical trials that are in there. If they don’t know those numbers and they shouldn’t be expected to, but we have to, and then we submit ’em to a board.

Then we put the, goes in the product to the manufacturer, and then we have to, then we third party test it to make sure the manufacturer match those dosages perfectly. Bingo. You have a home run that’s called a practitioner product. You would never sell that in the mass [00:13:00] market because you’d have to have the conversation.

We are forget them to understand why it might cost you a buck more. Okay. Because you’re getting the real deal, you know? So, and it’s always funny when someone switches over from a supplement line to ours. They go, wow. I mean, like within the first week everything’s changing. Very quickly. Cause, cause it’s working the way it’s supposed to.

You were just taking something under reformulated before, so we get very, very, so, so again, that’s why the big teams, that’s why your billion dollar companies sign up with us. They don’t trust anybody else out there. So it’s called a practitioner product. That’s where we are. And again, we sell through professionals like your coach.

Now, people can go online and buy our stuff, but almost all of ’em are sent by their professional there to go. And then there we have a screening process up there where you can just take a little test and we’ll tell you which ones you need and you’re gonna get the same thing our athletes get.

Richard Conner: That’s incredible. That’s so incredible. And you, you talked a little bit about the different products, um, but I know nutrition is personal, so, you know, it’s hard to say. For anyone listening here are like the three things that [00:14:00] you need, but I’m just wondering, are there some basics that everyone should consider and then from there it really kind of depends on, you know, what their needs are, what their goals are

Neal Spruce: Yeah, so we, we wanna stay specific to runners.

Richard Conner: to runners. Yeah.

Neal Spruce: But if you would go baseline for any sport, no matter what you are doing. So all your listeners here, I don’t care what you’re doing or what your kids are doing, all right, whatever it may be, everyone should be taking a complete multivitamin mineral no matter what you read out there, no matter what you see out there.

That is just, it is extremely naive not to. There’s no one, no way you’re getting it from all the foods we eat. No one’s ever in, in the history of the world. No one’s ever gotten the full recommended di dietary allowances of vitamins and minerals. It’s never happened and it’s impossible. And you don’t even know if it’s even in your foods anyway, even though you think they are.

So that’s that, that’s just automatic because that’s what those vitamin O are actuators of all human metabolism are, billion trillions of cells are only activated by the spark plugs that get to them, and those are your vitamins and minerals. So there’s number one. [00:15:00] Okay, and that way you’ll, you at least your, your structure and functional potentials at a top omega-3 fatty acids.

Now, you don’t have to supplement that if you’re eating fish three or four times a week. If you’re eating fish three or four times a week, so 16 ounces, let’s say total, you’re good. You’ll get a good fatty fish. Otherwise, you’ll want to take one or two omega threes a day. You’re protein before and after your activity.

In other words, you’ve gotta have, so every one of your listeners write this down. You and your kids and your aging, uh, uh, siblings. Also, whatever you need to make sure that everyone gets one gram per pound of lean body mass or weight, if you’re not overweight of protein per day and split it between your meals.

One gram if you want to remain active the rest of your life. Now part of that protein can be taken right before your workout in a powder form that gets in your system 30 minutes. So what that does is keeps you from breaking down the protein in your body too much when you take it before a workout and when you finish the workout, you take another [00:16:00] dose of that powder that’s in your body 30 minutes to help recover faster.

And we already know that, that you, you’ll recover much faster hitting those windows. You have a very small window there to get the maximum recovery. Now you’ll recover even if you didn’t do that, but not nearly as well as if you add your, you gotta eat the protein anyway, so you might as well take 25 grams before a workout, 25 grams after.

And you know, with all of that, you’re good to go as long as you know you’re getting enough calcium intake from the foods you’re eating. So if you’re getting three or four dairy products a day of some type, you’re gonna have enough calcium. You don’t need a supplement, but 75% of Americans do. And if you’re an athlete, you’re gonna fracture if you don’t have enough calcium with vitamin D.

You get the vitamin D if you’re a multi, but you might have to take a separate calcium supplement that’s baseline for every human being on the planet. And that will also help them recover faster by the before and after protein to next level on that. Um, when it comes to the next level for a, for a runner, you know, then we, we have an amino formula that helps them recover faster.

That would be one other thing you could add. That would be the [00:17:00] next level. And that’s what we call like a level two recovery from that. Those are really your basics. You know, beyond that now we have special antioxidants, what they’re called lutein Xanthin. They’re carotinoids, okay? And lycopene. And then a little extra, uh, alpha lipoic acid, and coq 10.

That’s another, that’s just like a second add that’s also on the level two program to help runners recover. And again, the average recreational runner doesn’t need to go to that next level. If they want to like you, I’ve heard, you know, you want to get better and better. Those are the kind of things that you would do, you, you would add to it.

And then on competition, on your competition day or getting close to it, use caffeine. All, all caffeine. So we have a product made directly for like Olympic athletes and so forth. And of course any athlete, um, that wants to, uh, pro delay fatigue, caffeine’s the most powerful ergogenic aids for runners in the right doses.

So there you go. There’s all kinds of other things we would use for healing ultra endurance athletes like [00:18:00] glutamine, but let, that’s down the road. You know, that’s when you get to become that elite athlete.

Richard Conner: Sure, sure. That is very helpful. And I, and that gives, you know, our community a sense of maybe what they’re not doing today versus what they should at least consider or have a conversation with, a nutritionist, with their coach on. How do they get all of, you know, all of meet all of their needs. Right.

Depending on their level of activity and depending on their diet. And I love how you said, you know, some of this will get from what we eat naturally, but if we’re not, we have to supplement it. So, and I could share a little bit about my experience with. With the protein in particular. So I wasn’t taking protein before, uh, then I started taking protein.

But you know, honestly, a lot of the protein I was taking was not sitting well with me and I didn’t really realize it for a long time. I couldn’t figure out what was wrong with me and I thought it was me. So then I started to try different proteins and then finally found. Vegan protein, which, which worked for me.

And then I started using the DotFit vegan protein. And I’ve never had an issue [00:19:00] since it’s been working for me for, you know, a few years. So that is like absolutely my go-to. But one of the things that I realized is as I was tracking my macros and tracking my calories, which I know there’s a whole lot of, I know there’s a lot of, um, not everybody does it right, not everybody’s into tracking, you know, so that there’s a lot of,

Neal Spruce: It’s not fun.

Richard Conner: Yeah. Yeah, it’s, it is not fun. I mean, folks may not stick with it so may, they may not get the benefit from it. But in any case, so I was tracking mine. I realized that I just wasn’t getting enough of what I needed in what I was eating. So of course I had to make changes in what I was eating, but supplementing it with the, you know, vegan protein and with the other supplements, definitely, you know, made a difference for me.

Neal Spruce: that’s great. Cause you, what you’re really doing, Richard, is you’re filling your gaps that food leaves. There’s no way you’re just gonna accidentally eat what you need to, to, to make your bo have your body, have all the building materials, vitamin, minerals, aminos, and everything else every day. I mean, it’s just, it’s, you know, again, that’s not gonna happen.

[00:20:00] And athletes definitely, because their bodies go under so much pressure and so much more exercisers, they need more, you know, and that’s the bottom line. And then what, what exercise it does, it opens your body up to more nutrition so you can actually last longer. That’s it. But if you don’t put in the more nutrition, you’re gonna last shorter,

Richard Conner: Right, right. Absolutely. So, so that’s super helpful and you know, I’m wondering, one of the questions that I like to ask, um, my guest is, you know, kind of. Moving outside of nutrition in particular, but just a little bit more broader question is through your journey, through your journey of starting up the, the companies and starting up DotFit and your sports career, what would you say was the biggest obstacle that you faced and how did you overcome it?

Neal Spruce: Yeah, well, I think it is, is the biggest obstacle that, uh, again, in, in sports, uh, it’s the biggest obstacle is always gonna be genetics. You know, if you don’t have the right genetics, then know you can do all you want, but you, you’re gonna struggle getting [00:21:00] there. And then, you know, whatever else, uh, goes along with it.

As far as obstacles when it comes to business and so forth, you know, there, it’s, it’s basically the, the sort of people that you, you, it’s all about the getting the right talent and getting the right team together to do the right things. And for me, you know, I’ve just been this sort of, I have this altruistic type mind and what I mean by that, I, I’m trying to save the world through fitness because it saved my life, obviously.

And so I’ve, I’ve, I’ve been just. Focused on all that and not so much on the business side of it. So I’ve always been lucky to have partners that are really good, like good with all that. But I, if I had focused on, maybe we could have maybe been, I mean, we’re obviously pretty big, so, I mean, and all of our companies, and we, well, I’m involved in multiple companies.

Dot Fit is just one of them. That’s, this is my baby. And then of course, I’m. Uh, uh, partners and, and investors and many other fitness companies and businesses. But this is, uh, [00:22:00] you know, so for me that was really it. It was just the fact that sometimes I am distracted by my altruism and, uh, and that, and that doesn’t work in a board meeting.

They, they, they just don’t care. So that, that’s really trying to get everybody else to do, want to do the right thing, and it’s okay not to just, you know, piling on money and everything else. I mean, at the end of the day, I always ask the question, how much is enough? So, you know, let’s, let’s just do the right thing all the time.

So I’ve been able, lucky enough that my partners allow me to do that, but it probably slows the business down.

Richard Conner: Mm. I love it. I love it. Thank you for sharing that. And, you know, how do you stay motivated? So I love your passion for, you know, helping others through, through fitness, through nutrition and the work that you’re doing. How do you personally stay motivated and, and keep going?

Neal Spruce: because I realize I’m making a difference, and that’s all. Listen, I, it’s one thing to make a living. I wanna make a difference. You know, I’ve been fortunate enough to make a good living along with it, uh, doing the right things, you know, maybe a little slower than [00:23:00] someone else, uh, you know, getting to whatever you’re trying to do.

But I am trying to get. The right, you know, I’m trying to get the right, , information into every household in America. Not, not unlike what we just talked about when we opened the show. Having your multivitamin, get your protein, and you know what? That can, that can help save you from the big pharma trap that we live in today, because these are the things we protection before cure.

So I’ve been on that since the very, very beginning of time. You know, and, and so that’s, that’s good. That’s what keeps me motivated. And I can see it’s happening. I feel it, you know, the, the, the general wave across the population, you know, because of the pandemic, people realize, wow, I’ve really screwed up, you know, these underlying conditions.

And then big pharma, you know, just trying to put you on drugs every single time. Well, how about doing something, okay, here, I’m not taking any while. Just move a little bit. Take your complete multivitamin mineral every day, and that’ll keep you, and that’ll help just get you motivated to do things. So I get motivated just seeing progress, [00:24:00] and I, and I, and I see it on a regular basis and I’m 71 years old, and all my peers always ask me, when are you gonna retire?

And we just started a new business literally last year. We started a big business in the last year as well. And so it’s like, um, never, never retirement’s death. So, and I, and I, and I, I’m gonna see this through. I am gonna save the world through fitness, Richard, or I’m never gonna know. I didn’t because I’ll die trying. That’s my motivation. That’s my motivation.

Richard Conner: Love it. Love it. So what’s next for you and what’s next for DotFit?

Neal Spruce: Yeah. What’s next for me right now? And I am on a bit of a crusade. I’m taking on big pharma, so, And I don’t mean like personally with, uh, going after the drug company, I wouldn’t do that. You know, they’re trapped, they’re, they’re trapped in a world where they’ve just gotta, you know, the, the Imagine a board meeting in a drug company, God, thank God all these people are getting fat.

I hope they just stay fat. Okay. We got all kinds of new drugs for that. [00:25:00] Now we got, all our sales are gonna go up. And by the way, that New Glide, uh, they’re, they’re predicting that to be a 700 billion in the next few years drug. And that’s, that, you know, the weight loss drug, it actually works. You gotta stay out the rest of your life as soon as you go off it.

And they’ve already told you that you’re gonna gain all the weight back and it’s $1,400 a month and you gotta shoot yourself up every day. I mean, really. I mean, but these are just, the big pharma gives people excuses to go ahead and, , live a, a life that’s not a little more structured around, you know, just moving and eating a little better and taking the supplements you need, you know, in, in today’s world.

So, and if for tho if those, your listeners that don’t know this, Americans have the shortest lifespan. The shortest health span, which means how long you’re independent of all 50 Pure Nation countries. Pure nations are ones that are development and eco economies the same as ours. We are dead last in lifespan, dead last in healthspan, which tells you that, you know, that’s the problem where we just get, we get on drugs, me, uh, medications regularly to fix [00:26:00] something, and then we have to take a medication to offset the side effects on that medication.

When anyone will tell you, two thirds to three quarters of all of our health expenses are, uh, preventable. So again, that’s, that’s what I’m working on. That’s not, that’s the future. That’s what the companies are all built about. We have a new product that just came out. It says all in one super blend right there.

A shameful plug right there. But anyway, it’s in our pilot club, so it’s in about, we have it in 50 of our pilot clubs. We have 2000 club health clubs. Uh, but they, we we’re putting ’em in the pilot clubs right now, and this is, That is that sort of lifetime formula that anybody can use. You know, anybody that has everything, has your complete multivitamin, your antioxidants, your ashwagandha, mushrooms, and uh, you know, all the really good stuff that you every day will help you heal.

And I always say, you know, that’s what you want to do. You know, your trillions of cells are replacing themselves every day. They just don’t have the material to do it well. So you don’t get all the materials in daily from your foods. Well then you just. Lesser human. That’s all. That’s, [00:27:00] that’s all. Then, then your potential.

So this, just filling all those gaps in one drink, at least we can get that in the hands. I’m not worried about people like you that’ll take your, your, your, your supplements properly, but that this is for the rest of the world. Hey, one and done. You got it all in there and start while you’re healthy. We’re not trying to fix anything.

We’re trying to keep you from having to be fixed. That’s what it comes down to. So there you go. That’s what the new thing’s going on right now.

Richard Conner: Love it. Love it. I love your vision and the work that you’re doing. You know, kind of as we wind down here, what would the one thing you would say to our listeners to help inspire them to run as well as take care of themselves, um, nutrition wise?

Neal Spruce: I think one thing I would say, and I’ve done this quite often before in lectures, I go, just look around. You go to a mall, go to go, go shopping, just go walk down the street and look around you and look at, you know, just this, the shape we’re in. We’re in the worst shape of any country as far as fiscal, [00:28:00] and that should be motivation enough for you not to look at your parents, look at your grandparents, whatever age you are, look at the generation above you and look what they’re going through right now.

You don’t have to do that. You don’t have to do that at all. Find some way of moving whatever your favorite way is. Maybe it’s bodybuilding, maybe it’s running, maybe it’s cycling, maybe it’s walking. It doesn’t matter. Find something that easy. You know, fill your gaps. That’s a, like I said, a one and done, and you’re gonna be a hundred times better over the, and you’ll, you’ll notice it in the first months or so.

Everything’s starting getting better. So that’s really it. I mean, it just, just look around to get yourself motivated. Look around what’s going on around you. Look at the, look at the doctor visits. Look at the hospital. Look at the drugs. The no one takes more drugs. And for the, you don’t, people that don’t know .

In the US everyone 18 years or older, 66% of every person in the United States, 66% [00:29:00] or 18 years, or on regular prescription medication, 80%, 90% when you get up to 65 are on right up. Just multiple. So that’s just not necessary. And then no one wants to live that life in, in, in, with, from big pharma and the whole, and by the way, we don’t call it healthcare anymore.

We call it sick care. You know, no one wants to live in that world, you know, so just you can avoid that. So look around you, look around you. That should motivate you right there. And it’s so easy. It’s not hard. And we’re not talking about, you know, eating, you know, the things you don’t like. You can eat the things you like, just fill your gaps.


Richard Conner: For sure, for sure. Neil, thank you so much. Really appreciate your time. Appreciate everything that you shared with us. I learned a lot through this conversation and I’m sure that everyone else did as well. How can our listeners find you and follow your journey online?

Neal Spruce: Yeah. You know, I’m not a, I’m not a a social media guy cause I’ve kind of sit behind the curtains, you know, with everything. And I do lecture all the time. but [00:30:00] You know, you can get pretty much everything off the website there to kind of get, dig in a little bit more. And then fitness professionals like Kevin, of course they have, they can get to the backside.

They can, my videos are on YouTube. You can find it up there, some DotFit YouTube or something like that. Yeah. So I’m not a, I don’t promote much, you know, cuz it’s all kind of done through all the different organizations we do. But yeah, that’s it. And he can, you can, uh, follow DotFit, um, and then all in one super blend.

You’ll, that, that site will be live very soon. And you can, that’s a whole different, you know, section there and you’ll find out a little bit more some of the things we talked about as well for the rest of them.

Richard Conner: Awesome, awesome. So I’ll include that information in the show notes to make it easy for our listeners to and check out the company and the products. Um, with that, Neil, again, thank you so much for coming on the show and have a great day.

Neal Spruce: Thanks for having me, Richard. Really appreciate it. Love it. Thank you. Have a good one.