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Five Ways Running Can Transform Your Life with Zack Selleck! Ep107

#107 – Ready to break free from your comfort zone and embark on a transformative health and fitness journey? You’re in luck! In our latest episode, we sit down with Zack Selleck, a plant-based endurance runner from Michigan who has run the gamut from 5Ks to ultramarathons. Zack’s story is one of determination and resilience, peppered with life-changing decisions (hint: it includes running) that ultimately led him to the healthier, more fulfilling lifestyle he leads today.

Topics Covered:

  • Learn the 5 ways running can help transform your life
  • Listen for the practical tools to integrate running into their hectic lives
  • Hear his unique insights on maintaining motivation and implementing lifestyle changes that stick

Today’s Guest

Zack Selleck, plant-based endurance runner, shares the ways running has transformed his life

Zack Selleck

Zack is a plant-based endurance runner from Michigan. He is married with two children, 14 and 11. He has been running since 2011, starting recreationally with 5k’s and now getting more serious with ultra marathons and endurance runs/races like the Run to Montreal, and The Speed Project and R3. In addition, he is an amateur photographer, so he is able to combine his hobbies of running and taking pictures. He is excited to talk about how running has changed his life and how he has reaped the benefits from better eating, exercise, and pushing his limits. 

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Richard Conner: [00:00:00] Hey, my friend, are you wondering why should I run and how will running benefit me in my life? Or maybe you have a friend wondering the same thing as you’re trying to get them to run that 5k or half marathon with you. If that is the case, this episode is for you. Our guests, Zach will answer those questions while sharing his inspiring story.

So sit back, relax and enjoy the conversation. Oh, yeah. Don’t forget to share this episode with your friend as well. Hope you enjoy.

Intro: Welcome to inspire to run podcast. Here, you will find inspiration, whether you’re looking to take control of your health and fitness, or you are a seasoned runner looking for community and some extra motivation, you will hear inspiring stories from amazing runners, along with helpful tips from fitness experts.

Now, here’s your host Richard Conner.

Richard Conner: my friend, welcome to inspire to run podcast today. I have the pleasure of sitting down with Zach [00:01:00] Selleck, who is a plant based endurance runner from Michigan. He is married with two children ages 14 and 11. Zach has been running since 2011. And he started recreationally with five K’s and now getting more serious with ultra marathons and endurance runs and races like run to Montreal and the speed project and R3.

In addition, he is an amateur photographer, so he’s able to combine his hobbies of running and taking pictures. He’s excited to talk about how running has changed his life and how he has reaped the benefits from better eating. Exercise and pushing his limits. Welcome to the show, Zach.

Zack Selleck: Thanks so much, Richard. I’m excited to be here.

Richard Conner: I’m excited to have you here to share your story and specifically how running has changed your life, because I’ve seen that in many of the guests and many of the folks that I know about how running has made such a positive impact, uh, in their lives. So excited to have you share your story and, you [00:02:00] know, Your story in this topic is so important because this is the primary mission for inspire to run is to inspire folks to, to run, right.

To make a change in their life and make running a big part of that. So happy to have you here.

Zack Selleck: Well, thanks. I really appreciate it.

Richard Conner: Yeah. So, you know, I read a little bit about you in your bio, but let’s just hear, you know, from you a little bit about, you know, how do you got started in running and what that was like for you.

Zack Selleck: Yeah, absolutely. Well, I was always really active in high school. I played football, basketball, baseball. Uh, in college, I was pretty active as well. I did lifted weights, uh, still played, played, uh, recreationally. , and then right after that, got a really high stress job after I graduated. I was on call on weekends during the, during the week, made it really difficult to do kind of active things or join teams or any of that stuff.

And so just slowly got out of shape. Yeah. , and it, uh, was kind of progressive and I finally was like, uh, man, I’m, I’m a little, uh, I’m a little outta whack here.[00:03:00] , right about that time we’re actually at my job. I had a, a buddy that was, uh, running and running quite a bit, , kind of in the mornings or on the weekends and finding time to do it.

And he was like, you know, you should just run a five K. And I was like, A five K. I’m like, I can totally run a five K, no problem. , I, I was active, like I just still had this mentality of like, oh, I’m, I’m. still this athlete that I used to be. Um, so we trained a couple of times, , before the race and then went out there and, uh, it was somewhat humbling and embarrassing.

Uh, I was out of breath, uh, almost immediately. Uh, it was getting passed by everybody. I couldn’t believe. Just how far I’d let myself go. , and so during that race, I was just like, this is crazy. I’m 30. , I should be in great shape still. I’ve got plenty of life left and, uh, and I wasn’t. And so by the time I got done with that, I just had made a promise to myself that I wasn’t going to let myself keep sliding down that path.

And so I didn’t know what that meant or what to do. , but I was like, I’m going to keep running. Like, I think that’s a [00:04:00] good. activity. I should be able to do a five K. So why not keep working towards that and seeing if I can improve my time. And so luckily I had this buddy who encouraged me to kind of keep going.

He had been running like half marathons, which just seemed inconceivable to me at that time after having experienced a five K like I did, but signed up for more races. , got stuff on the calendar, started trying to train. I didn’t know what I was doing. , that was like, I know I just got to go out there and try to run faster.

And so that’s all, all I did for the next, I don’t know, , year or so I’ve, I would join a 5k. Uh, I would do a little bit better and progressively I started getting into a little bit better shape. And so I was like, Oh, maybe I’ll try a 10K. I was like 5K times getting down. I was losing some weight. I was feeling better.

, it made me want to eat better. And so it was kind of this just progressive thing. So finally did a 10K that went pretty well, did a few of those. Um, and then, uh, my buddy moved away, went to Nashville and he was like, you should come down here and do this rock and roll [00:05:00] half marathon. In Nashville, it was like, there’s gonna be bands and it’s gonna be a good time.

We’re gonna eat and drink and do whatever. It was like, okay, yeah, I can, I can do that. So I went down there, ran this half marathon, and right at the end of the half marathon, uh, the marathoners were getting ready to do like their kind of second loop. You could see them kind of going back out for the second piece of that.

And I just remember thinking at the time, like. There’s no way ever that I would do that. I’m like exhausted. Uh, if anybody’s ever done that half marathon, it’s like, there’s a lot of hills. Um, and it was definitely, , challenging. , but it kind of got in my head, like, man, there’s people that do this. And it was such a, like a positive.

All the way from these five Ks to this half marathon, everybody was just up and at it and ready to go. And I was like, this is why I need my life. This positivity, this encouragement, all of that stuff was so good. , and so after a little while, I started getting my head, like I could. I can maybe try a marathon.

And around that same time, I had a couple of my cousins were like, yeah, we should totally sign up. So we kind of signed up on the, on a [00:06:00] whim, , did the Grand Rapids, uh, Michigan marathon, finished it. It was like, that was pretty amazing. Never want to do it again. I was sore. Everything hurt. , I was just like, that, that was great.

, but just like so many other people after a little while, you kind of forget how bad that, that pain was. , and we’re like, Oh, you know, I could totally do it again. So did a few more of those. And then one of my same cousins was like, we should do an ultra marathon. , which was kind of funny to me thinking back to kind of where I started, but I was like, okay, it was like 33 miles.

, And we did it, we finished it. And I was like, man, I’m an ultra marathoner this is crazy. So, uh, from there, it kind of just progressively kept going. I got a running coach. , it was actually a Canadian guy that I met, Darren Weldrick, , who runs a big kind of running group there. And that helped, uh, he helped kind of get me ready for some of these longer runs.

, and then I started trail running and that kind of changed my life, uh, from that standpoint. And so I kind of got off the roads and into trails and those [00:07:00] guys were doing a hundred mile runs, 50 mile runs. , and so encouraged me to like, you can keep going farther, like you don’t have to stop. And I just, again, just kind of felt physically better, , as time progressed, it was definitely got into better shape.

And now all of a sudden, , that seemed feasible. And so I’ve done several 50 mile runs since then and, and some of the adventure runs that you referenced kind of in the beginning. So it’s been an exciting kind of journey of, , kind of self discovery and after, what do I do after college? How do I stay in shape?

, you know, what do I do next and finding some, , some passion and, and a direction in my life. It was a good thing.

Richard Conner: I love that. I love that. Thank you for sharing your story, Zach. And, you know, I can relate to a lot of what you said, probably up to the half marathon point, probably nothing after that. Um, but we’ll certainly talk about all of it, but I appreciate what you said, you know, some of the things that you shared, you know, the first is, uh, your friend first getting you into it, you know, some time ago.

I love that you mentioned that because that is a common way for someone to get into running and a very, And Um, [00:08:00] influential ways to see someone who you’re close to. You have a connection to say, Hey, let’s go do this race or come to the gym with me. So I love that that, you know, happened for you. And I also appreciate, you know, what you said about, you know, not exercising and just kind of getting.

Really kind of drawn into your work and you know, it’s happens over time. It’s not overnight, but you could easily kind of get out of shape and whatever that means, right. If you’re not eating healthy or, or whatever that means for, for you, um, and then making that commitment to make a change. And that’s the part of it that, you know, is truly inspiring is that you could recognize that, you know.

Things have changed for you probably not in a positive way, but to make that commitment to yourself that you want to make a change in a positive way. Um, so hat hats off to you for that.

Zack Selleck: I appreciate it. Yeah. It’s a, it’s a progressive thing, both good and bad and nothing happens overnight. The bad doesn’t happen overnight and the good doesn’t happen overnight. So make the commitment to yourself is, is really important.[00:09:00]

Richard Conner: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, I had a similar experience a few years ago, you know, so my story is a runner in high school track cross country. Didn’t run after high school, you know, just got started with life, college kids, career, uh, Kind of all at the same time, and then, you know, and then just a few years ago, I kind of found myself kind of in that corporate like travel a lot, you know, probably very unhealthy diet and, you know, not really taking care of myself.

And then at some point, you know, it’s the same kind of thing, like, Oh, you know, I, I need to get active again, but not really doing much other than periodically going to the gym or periodically running, you know, a 5k race. And then for me, it wasn’t until getting into obstacle course races where I’m like. This is something I can do, and this is something I want to do. And I think this is going to help me, you know, just personally kind of grow. So that was kind of the turning point for me.

Zack Selleck: I love that. I mean, there’s so many different options out there. It doesn’t need to be marathon running. There’s obstacle [00:10:00] courses. There’s these adventure races where you’re doing all kinds of other activities, canoeing and bike biking and all that stuff. I mean, just find something that works. It doesn’t need to be a particular thing.

It just needs to be something. So just find that something for you, I think is important.

Richard Conner: Absolutely. Absolutely. And then, you know, kind of thinking about the obstacle course races, there is, you know, so the ones that I did were Spartan races and they have three levels. , they call it Spartan sprints, Spartan. Super in Spartan beast and the beast is equivalent to a half marathon, , plus a certain number of obstacles.

So I’m kind of chuckling as you’re talking about, Hey, you finished your half marathon and you see the runners going out for their second loop for the full marathon. That’s exactly my thought when I’m finishing the beast and I’m thinking about all the folks who are doing the ultra, you know, the, the Spartan ultra, which is, you know, that distance.

So, , until you get there, it just, you know, feels. Like super far away, probably farther away than it really is for you to get to that point.

Zack Selleck: Totally agree. Yeah. Everybody’s kind of on their own, their own timeline as far as that stuff goes. But yeah, I mean, [00:11:00] it’s, it really is like just being consistent and showing up and at some point you’re going to, you know, tell that starting line and you may or may not be ready, but it’s just getting out there and trying it and surprise yourself.

I think, you know, I’ve surprised myself several times where I was like, man, this is going to be hard or I’m, you know, I don’t know how I’m going to finish this. And, you know, it’s one foot in front of the other. Yeah. Yeah,

Richard Conner: Absolutely. Absolutely. So, you know, so tell me about, you know, the things or the ways that running has transformed your life. I’m really, really fascinated by this. Um, you know, having a lot of conversations with runners, , who have different experiences, different paths. And one of the things I love about these conversations is to hear about, like, how has it really helped them?

And I think, you know, when you think about fitness, you think about running. More than likely. The first thing that comes to mind is really just about like losing weight or, or getting fit, you know, but there’s so much more that, that running provides. So like, what are the ways that it, that it’s helped you?

And, and I know you mentioned about also about kind of losing weight as well. So that I assume that’s part of your story, but share a little bit about like the ways that running’s [00:12:00] helped you.

Zack Selleck: absolutely. I think for me, I mean, it was really just a health thing at first and I had no intention of like, Oh, I’ll become an ultra marathon or like that was not on my radar at all. Really. It wasn’t until it’s like progressing and reading books and like trying to figure out like, where, where am I going with this?

, that, that, that stuff happened. So it was really just starting out with the basic, like, yeah, I’m, I’m heavy now. What am I doing with my life? Let’s try to figure that out. But, yeah. I think like for the first thing was just having something to train for. Um, and so having a race out there and I always just had one like, Oh, in a couple of months I’ve got this race.

And so I was always kind of able to back into it to go, okay, I’m doing this race. I don’t want to die while I’m doing it. So what are the, what are the three things I kind of need to do to get myself prepared? And that really made a big difference for me. And I’ve done that now for 14 years. I’ve always just had.

Something out there and they’ve gotten bigger and harder and, you know, taking more training and some of that stuff, but having something that you’re working towards, I think is super important. So I would say that’s probably number [00:13:00] one. , without that, it’s like you, you, you have these big periods of inactivity.

Um, and that consistency is really hard. , trying to find that motivation is really hard. , if you have something out there, you can really create that discipline of, okay, I’ve got to get up. I got to do this run. I, here’s my plan. I’m big on like lists and check offs. And, you know, I would lay out my training and go, okay, did I do my thing today or not?

And checking that box made it made a huge difference for me. It was like something as simple as that. Like, yes, I did my thing and then moving out with my day. So I would say that’s number one is just figure out what that thing is that you can work towards, , find some direction that way. And it would be amazed at what you can do with it for yourself.

Richard Conner: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And you know, you didn’t use these words, but I feel like to some extent it’s a little bit of sense of accomplishment, right? Even before you reached that end goal, it’s doing those daily workouts and checking those boxes and kind of doing everything leading up to it. So, yeah.

Zack Selleck: Yeah, that’s uh, that’s totally it. I think, you know, and it builds on itself. It’s [00:14:00] like once you’re, you know, it’s like, oh man, 5k is pretty easy or 10k is pretty easy. It’s like your, your mindset changes to what you, what that next thing is. Again, I never intended to like, I’m going to do a bunch of these long races, but just, it was like, well, what’s my next thing that I really want to push myself towards what’s interesting out there that I could do.

And, and that was really helpful over time.

Richard Conner: Very cool. Very cool.

Zack Selleck: I think secondarily to that is just kind of surrounding yourself with good people. I, I, I feel like I’ve done a good job of that over the last, I don’t know, , 10 years, you know, as I, as I realized, like, I don’t know everything. I don’t know what I was doing when I first started. I didn’t know how to do any kind of nutrition.

I didn’t know. How to eat right. I didn’t know the workouts to do all that stuff. And so I think finding somebody that can kind of guide you. And at first it was just a friend. , but from there I did, I got a running coach and that was helpful. I was like, Oh man, what’s a speed workout? What’s a hill workout?

Like I haven’t done these things before. And Oh, they should have pace goals. And like over time that that really helps like, okay, now I can kind of create my own [00:15:00] plan because I’m getting this baseline of knowledge. And it’s somebody that that’s gonna help push you on days where you don’t feel like doing it.

Having that accountability to either a running group or a coach or whoever it might be, , made a huge difference. , and then just seeing what they’re doing. I mean, I think the, you know, a lot of the things that I got into were because these people were doing it and they’re like, Oh, we need another person to come with us.

Or why don’t you try this thing? , and so having people around you that are, you know, You don’t set these internal limits that I think it’s easy to do when you’re by yourself. But having this group of people that are like, you could totally do it. You’re doing this. And that was just like me, that kind of stuff was ultra motivating for me to like, okay, yeah, like let’s try that.

Okay. Yeah. I’ll do that training because I’ve always been one to like be willing to push myself, but I just need some direction on how to push. , and so that was nice to have some people around. So I would say number two is, you know, find some people that, you know, are kind of interested in what you’re interested in and willing to kind of push you.

, even if you don’t want to be pushed

Richard Conner: Yeah, 100 percent agree. I love what [00:16:00] you said about that surrounding yourself with, you know, with the right people. And, you know, I love to quote sayings, but I never really get them right. But it’s something like, you’re the average of the five people closest to you kind of in your life. So, you know, so you’re absolutely right.

You know, The quality of those people, , is really going to determine, you know, your mindset and your actions, , not determined, I would say influence, right, your,

Zack Selleck: influence for sure.

Richard Conner: , so totally agree with that. And then, you know, and the coach part completely relate to that. I mean, that’s my story four years ago when I got into obstacle course races, I would, I did my first race without a coach.

I didn’t know what I didn’t know. And then afterwards I’m like, I could do this better, but I definitely need help. I need someone to tell me what to do, but I will say that. , so the coach I have now through underdog fitness, who I brought on the show a few times and, you know, we go on Instagram live and we got a great, you know, relationship and partnership, you know, he did more than just tell, told me what to do.

He helped push me to do the things that I never thought I could do before. Right. Which was the journey I was on. He was that push though, [00:17:00] to say, yes, you can. Right. And here’s how we’re going to get you there, which has been, you know, tremendous. So I can completely relate to, you know, what you shared there.

Zack Selleck: Yeah, I like that. I mean, I think that’s totally true. Well, you know, coaches have seen everything under the sun and, you know, I think they can, they can see in you what you can’t at first. And I think that’s, that’s a great part of having somebody that’s willing to sit down with you, create a plan and then help you execute on that plan.

Richard Conner: Yeah. And then, you know, and I’m sure it’s the same with your coach. We’ve become really good friends, right. Over the last four years working together and it’s more than. You know, the coaching and the fitness part of it, we’ve, we’ve just become really good friends, which is great.

Zack Selleck: But yeah, that’s a side benefit for sure. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I think the next thing is just, you know, the power of saying yes. You know, I think as I was getting into, you know, after college and working and kind of getting into this bubble, things kind of closed in a little bit on what I was doing. I was, you know, I’ve like just had my first child, like.

things [00:18:00] were, , kind of, , slow. And, you know, that was okay for for a time. But I think you can get stuck in that mentality of I go to work. I come home. I take care of kids. I clean. We, you know, do whatever on the weekend and then it’s back to Monday. We get we get going again. And I think you know, having a coach going, finding people that are interested in what you’re interested in, , really helps to kind of get yourself outside of that.

And so you start realizing, man, there’s other things to do out here too. That would be good for me, , to push boundaries, to, to explore, to figure out, you know, what the next thing is. , actually the, the coach that I had for, from Canada, , he, he had. Basically started a big race, this run to Montreal, , which is basically a run from Toronto to Montreal, uh, relay style.

, he, the first year that, that I said yes to it, uh, it was 10 people, um, and it was, I think 600 miles or something. And so I, I was like, okay, yeah, I’ll come, I’ll come do that. , because I was in the group, I barely got to see everybody else that was in the group. But I was like, okay, yeah, [00:19:00] I’ll come to Toronto and run with a bunch of Canadian people that I’ve never met.

Sure, that sounds great. So, I mean, it like doing that kind of stuff really got me outside of my comfort zone. I was like, oh, we’re now in an RV for the next two days, , but met some great people. Uh, it was so hard, , and it was so rewarding, uh, to get that done. And then a few years after that, there was another race that was very similar called the Speed Project, , which was, uh, a race from the Santa Monica Pier to the Las Vegas sign.

, but that one had like 20 teams, a lot of international teams. It was only six people. You had to run through Death Valley. It’s like things that I was like, man, I’m pretty nervous about doing some of this stuff. The running group was super fast and I’ve never been that fast when it comes to running. I can endure for a while, but running fast is going to be challenging.

So, , Doing that with, uh, with that group was kind of amazing. And then we did the run in Montreal. I’ve done that three times now, , which has been a really cool experience. And then most recently, I think just a couple of years ago I did, , R3, which is at the Grand [00:20:00] Canyon. You start at one rim, go all the way down, run all the way across, go off the other side and then come all the way back around.

So it was a little over 50 miles and a lot of elevation doing that stuff. But, you know, thinking back to like when I started. , just trying to get through a five K. It’s just amazing. I feel how far my mentality of, you know, I can figure this out. Yeah, this is scary. Yes, I would normally be really nervous about this, but I got other people that will do it.

Let’s say yes, that has made a huge difference in my life. Just not just in running, but just in life in general of just being open. , so running brought that to me, which is pretty cool.

Richard Conner: That’s awesome. That’s awesome. And so first congratulation on all those scary races and really long races. And I love what you said about, you know, saying yes. And, you know, you touched on a little bit about, it’s not only about fitness, but it’s also in other areas of your life. So it’s really wonderful to see kind of the benefits that you’re getting here from, um, in your fitness related activities, kind of just in your broader, you know,

Zack Selleck: Yeah, I agree. I think [00:21:00] it, you know, it started with that. And then, you know, you want to do better. I’m sure you experienced some of the same thing with your racing. You get those things done. You start, you know, putting those behind you and you want to be a better person. You want to make things better. the best that they can be for your life.

And that certainly happened with me. I mean, thinking about, you know, habits and, , how do I progress from here? I think I’d had a bunch of bad habits kind of leading up to this. And I think I’ve replaced most of them with really positive things. Like I started eating a lot better. I’m plant based now.

I’ve been that way for 10 years. That was a big change and lost a ton of weight with that. I think I improved my running, which has been great. Yeah. Like to get up early. Now I get up early. Most days I’m usually up by 5 30 and I go run, you know, six miles or 10 miles or whatever it might be on the weekends a lot longer.

I never would have done that leading up to this. So it’s just interesting, like over time that it may have started with running, but it really transforms all these different aspects of your life. And like, you know, I want to be a good dad. I want to have [00:22:00] energy. I want to age well, I want to be healthy. Um, and it all kind of feeds into each other.

So it’s, it’s been a good progression that way.

Richard Conner: very cool.

Zack Selleck: Um, have you experienced something similar yourself? Just, uh, curiosity.

Richard Conner: Yeah. You know. So just thinking about, well, I mean, first for you talking about the races, my goal for the race is typically if I’ve never done it before, it’s, it’s really just to finish. Right. If I’ve never done that before, I don’t have a benchmark. I’m like, I just want to finish it, especially if it’s really daunting for me.

But then after that, looking to do better and then kind of set a goal that says, okay, well, if I did X, then, you know, through some training and some time I could do Y. And then I go into the next race, kind of with that mindset, like, how do I do it better? better than I did before. Not only, you know, my time, but also how I’m feeling and how I’m running and, you know, doing all the other things that I should be doing properly, like proper fueling and nutrition and, um, pace and stride and form and all of those things.[00:23:00]

, But yeah, I would say that this has really, , my journey in particular, you’re talking about how it’s helped me in like other parts of my life. So for me, my journey has been around doing things I’ve never done before and overcoming fears. So it’s, you know, mostly physically related, like, you know, climbing up a rope or doing monkey bars or anything to do with heights, like mostly that, but it’s transferred over into my life and like.

I do hard things in my life. Maybe it’s difficult conversations, right? Where I would have avoided in the past. Um, now I’m kind of leaning into those conversations or situations. So I definitely see this, you know, my journey of doing things I’ve never done before, doing things that, you know, scare me. I’ve seen that kind of transfer, you know, in other parts of my life, I will say some of the physical parts, like you talked about getting up at five 30 in the morning for me, that’s still tough.

That’s still tough to do. I do, I do get up early in the morning. My, my body is conditioned to do so, but I’m not entirely as happy about [00:24:00] it as you are. So maybe I can learn a little bit from, from what you’re doing there. , but yeah, but just, you know, other parts, I do feel better. Like I went through this whole period of time, um, that year after I did my first obstacle course race, where, you know, when I got a coach, I was eating better, um, my, one of my goals was not necessarily to lose weight, but to lose body fat, uh, and then become stronger and become a faster runner.

I was doing all those things that year, honestly, like right before the pandemic, I was probably in the best shape of my life. And I was sharing my story and I was excited and that got other people excited. And I don’t share that too, too much on the podcast, but that’s actually one of the reasons why I started the podcast was as a way to share my story.

, because, you know, for some folks, I hope that it is inspiring to them as well as share stories like yours. , so that’s, that whole journey is a large part of what led me even to start the, this community and podcast.

Zack Selleck: I think that’s so great. I mean, pandemic was good for something. It was a challenging [00:25:00] time. I feel like, you know, you could either come out of that real bad or, or better. I think, and you, you chose better, which is good. , and I, I certainly, uh, never enjoyed getting up even now, but it’s just part of what I got to do to get it done.

And, , so I, I I’m with you. It’s hard to, it’s hard to wake up, especially in the winter. Put on your stuff and go outside and be cold, dark, and snow on you.

Richard Conner: And here we are like it’s right around the corner. So, um, um, it’s coming. Yeah, for sure.

Zack Selleck: Yeah, I think kind of the last point is just, you know, kind of back to being the best version of yourself. I think that, , I am all about that now. I think trying to optimize, trying to figure out, you know, can I get stronger, faster, better, I’m getting older. , I’m going to fight that as hard as I can. So, , since, uh, having the running coach, I don’t have him anymore.

Now I have a strength coach and so I’ve incorporated that into. into running. , trying to be, you know, doing pull ups, push ups, doing weighted vest stuff. I like that is pretty cool. I’m eating a little bit differently, getting a little bit more protein. , that’s helped my [00:26:00] running. I think that’s made me way more durable.

, so I don’t get hurt quite as often. So like anything I can do to try to improve. Uh, I’m all about it. So I think that, you know, I’m a 180 shifted from when I was 30 and now I’m 44. And I think, I think I’m a better person. I’m going to keep trying, , trying to figure out the best way to do that. Kind of, uh, not just physically, but emotionally and spiritually and just in general, uh, with my family and everything else, so.

It’s a process that I’m still trying to figure out, but I want to be better. I want to do the best I can every, every day that I’m, I’m alive.

Richard Conner: I love that. I love that. Thank you so much, Zach, for sharing, you know, your, your five ways that, you know, running has really transformed your life. And I love to see how, you know, had the benefits for you physically, but also in other areas of your life, just kind of, as we talked about, and I have some shared experiences there as well.

So, you know, I love to hear from you. You know, throughout your journey, what would you say was probably the most difficult thing that you had to [00:27:00] obstacle that you had to overcome? And how’d you do it?

Zack Selleck: Yeah. I think, um, similar to you, like I traveled a lot for work. I travel a little less since the pandemic, but trying to fit in some of this training. , being on airplanes, having late dinners. , so trying to just figure out kind of with the calendar and trying to puzzle in the workouts has always been a challenge. , so now I’m doing a little less of that, which makes things a heck of a lot easier. But, you know, sometimes it would be that really late night run, and I would not want to do that after a big dinner or something like that. But I would be like. I got to get it in. Like, where else am I going to put it? And so it created like a really good set of discipline for myself to, to know, you know, I’ll do it no matter what, like, okay, I don’t get done till 1230 at night.

I guess that’s what it’s going to take. Um, and I’m just willing to do that if I know I’ve got some big thing that I’m working towards, , cause I want to do that well. Um, and so I just don’t give myself a lot of excuses, but that took time to develop. , there was, there was plenty of times where I skipped runs or like, Oh, it’s so cold out there.

I don’t want to do it. I really don’t do [00:28:00] that anymore. Like if I, something’s on the schedule, I’m going to get it done one way or another. I’m going to fit it in. And so that was probably like the most difficult, but now I think. I think I’m over that piece of it. , and I think that makes all the difference.

I think being consistent, uh, makes everything much simpler in your life. If you’re willing to just go out and do what you say you’re going to do. , and so I’m gonna try to keep that up.

Richard Conner: I love that. I love that. Yeah. I mean, travel for me, I still haven’t really figured it out. I’m getting better, but I still haven’t really figured it out. Like you said, you know, Early starts late dinners. It’s just being on an airplane. It’s just really hard. , so I’ve been fortunate for, you know, the last 3 years.

I haven’t traveled as much as I did previously, but it’s, it’s all coming back. Right? So now we’ve got to kind of figure this out. But 1 area, you know, I agree with you 1 area that. I said I would never do would be run in inclement weather, right? Especially in the winter, I’m not running outdoors. I’m going to run on a treadmill and I don’t have anything to do with that.

But you know, things have really changed over the last three years and I am running outdoors and unless it’s like really [00:29:00] bad weather, right, it’s, you know, it’s really heavy rain or, you know, it was really slippery conditions. More than likely. I’m going to try to do my runs outdoors, especially if they’re long runs, right?

I prefer to do it. Even with the cold versus doing it on a, on a treadmill these days. So, uh, definitely with you on that part.

Zack Selleck: Yeah. Treadmill is great. And I, I use that a lot. I used to have one in my house. Now I don’t. Now it’s like, okay, outside is my option. , and on the road is the same thing. It was like, I, you know, I’ll do a treadmill there, but that, you know, running and traveling is probably one of the best things that you can do.

It’s like, all you really need to do is bring some shorts and, and your, your, you know, your shoes and you’re good to go. So yeah, that took away some excuses for me. Cause I was like, almost every hotel has got a treadmill. I can figure that out. It was a great way to see cities, you know, and map out, you know, where I want to go and be like, Oh yeah, I’ll just run there now.

, so that, that was kind of fun too. So I tried to make it fun. I tried to like map out where I was going to be and like, okay, it’s going to be an adventure. I’m going to try some things out. I found trails all over the place. I found, you know, routes around cities and, and that [00:30:00] helped. Um, so maybe. Try that when you’re out in your next, , your next city.

Richard Conner: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So Zach, love this conversation. Love hearing your stories and again, the, the, the ways that running is transform your life. And, you know, kind of as we wind down here, what would be the one thing that you would say to our community to inspire them to run, uh, as a way to kind of make a change in their life?

Zack Selleck: Well, I think, I think it’s, you know, like I said, I don’t think it necessarily has to be running, but I think some kind of physical activity is needed. I think, you know, you kind of get outside being a kid and all that kind of changes. Like, well, I don’t really need to run anywhere. And I have people tell me all that, that all the time.

Like, I only run if somebody’s chasing me. And, you know, you get all those, uh, all those people that say stuff like that. And it’s like, okay, well. Maybe it’s biking. Maybe it’s, you know, it’s something just find something. , it’s going to make you feel better. It’s going to change how you think about things.

It’s going to make you more level headed. It’s going to get that excess energy out. It’s going to help you sleep better. Uh, all those things are just kind of cumulative to your health. [00:31:00] And so I would say, you know, do it for your kids, do it for yourself, make a change, do it for two weeks and see if it makes a difference.

You know, if it doesn’t, I’d be surprised. I think like for me, at least doing anything for about 30 days, , especially health related. You know, it makes, it makes a huge impact and it’s like, why would I go back? You know, I feel that way about eating. I feel that way about running. I don’t, I don’t want to go back to feeling that way again.

I don’t want to go back to feeling like, Oh man, I’m out of shape. I’m not healthy. And I want to go to the doctor. I don’t know what they’re going to say or what they’re going to find. Like, I want to, I want to do the best I can. And that doesn’t mean nothing bad will ever happen to you, but I want to improve my chances the best I can.

Richard Conner: Love it. Thank you so much, Zach. How can our community find you and follow your amazing journey online?

Zack Selleck: Yeah. Uh, well, a couple, a couple of places I’m on Instagram and I’m on Tik Tok. It’s the same name for both of them. It’s great lakes runner 40. , so feel free to follow along. It’s, , they’re public, uh, so happy to add you in as a friend and, and love for people to follow along. I think it’d be great.[00:32:00]

Richard Conner: All right. All right. We’ll put that information in the show notes to make it easy for our listeners to find and follow you. So once again, Zach, thank you so much for coming on the show. And with that, have a great day.

Zack Selleck: Thanks so much, Richard. Much appreciated.

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