Tips to Keep You Running Happy, Strong, and Motivated with Julie Felton! Ep91

Richard Conner: [00:00:00] Hey, my friend. Today, we’re going to hear from Julie Felton, who is a mother runner and always smiling and inspiring others. And today she’s going to share her lessons learned that can help you on your running journey. The joys and experiences of running races. And how running can benefit you physically, mentally, and emotionally.

Hope you enjoy. ​

Hi, my friend. Welcome to inspire to run podcast today. We’re sitting down with Julie Felton, who is a 39 year old mom of two boys avid runner and want to be doer of all things. Love [00:01:00] her of nature and the get out and go pursuer of peace and all things that better her as a whole. Mentally, physically, and emotionally.

She is an absolute firm believer in refusing to fail and the importance of cheering others on. Welcome to the show, Julie.

Julie Felton: Hi. Thanks for having me.

Richard Conner: You inspire, uh, your community, you bring inspiration, you bring smiles, and I’m excited to have you bring that to our community here on inspired to run podcast.

Julie Felton: excited. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Richard Conner: So, you know, let’s just get into the conversation and learn a little bit more about you, you know, tell us a little bit about your running background and, you know, also what inspires you to inspire others.

Julie Felton: All right. I started running 10 years ago and I never stopped. I was never a runner prior. I was very much that person that if you saw me running, something was wrong. And I got to a point in life where I needed to take back me. I needed to take back my power [00:02:00] and, you know, my purpose. Find me. And my sister got me out there for a one mile run.

She said, give me one mile. Give you one. And I ran that one mile and I finished that mile. And I was like, wow. All right. Okay. I can do one. I can do two. I can do two. I can probably do four. If I could go that fast, I could probably go a little faster. , you know, and, you know, it’s, I just never stopped. I kept going, you know, it’s very much my, it’s my peace.

I pursue my, my power out there, and I take back me with every impact of the pavement, as cliche as that might sound. I started 10 years ago and I’ll be damned if I stop. It’s a beautiful thing and I, it’s just, it’s, it’s very much a part of me and who I am, who I’ve become. [00:03:00] And I very much run towards that version of me.

Yeah.

Richard Conner: it started with that one mile and it started just getting out there and then two miles, four miles. And, you know, so tell me a little bit more, like how, how far did you take it? Was your, were you looking to just run out there and just to be outside where you’re looking to run races?

Julie Felton: It’s a big thing for me was it’s getting outside. It’s removing myself. It’s having that moment. I rest when I run, if you understand what I mean, that is very much my peace, my moments. You know, I, I love taking to the trails. It’s, it’s my happy place. You know, all, you know, the world could be.

burning around me and I get out there and it’s just like, it’s okay, you know, and, and in that moment that I take in everything, you know, I am very much that person that I am [00:04:00] very aware of my surroundings. And yet at the same time, I am very aware of my surroundings. You know, it’s, it’s the way the leaves are blowing or the winds coming in or the sun’s coming down.

And I just, as much as I get lost, I’m, I’m found. You know, um, and then it just escalated. It’s like, you know, maybe I should do a race. And then I kind of get in my head, you know, and I start thinking, nah, you know, I don’t want to ruin it. Don’t take a good thing and ruin it. Put too much pressure on yourself, because I do that.

I’m good for that, you know. I was like, I’m for fun. It’s just going to be fun. And I got out there, and I think the first one I did was the Shamrock Shuffle with my sister. And I was like, this is awesome! If this is amazing, you know, you get out there and you see all these people in the streets of downtown, everybody’s all dressed up and you got the balloon girl and the big hair and the tutus.

I was like, yes, you know, and I just, the, I mean, you can feel the vibration of [00:05:00] the crowd, the energy of everybody. It’s in that moment that all these people come together and everybody’s got one common goal and that’s the finish. And you cheer each other on while you’re at it. It’s a beautiful thing because in that moment, it’s nothing but positivity.

You know, I don’t know you, but I will cheer you on. There’s not a person that I don’t pass. And I’m like, Hey, good job. And they’ll look at me and they’re like, thanks. You know, like, good job, man. That’s what I’m talking about. Cause as much as I tell you, I, I too need to hear it. You know, it’s a beautiful thing.

It’s in that moment. You’re like, you’re in your head and you feel like every ounce of your being is screaming to make it end. And somebody’s like, Hey, good job. And you’re like, thanks. And it just kind of gets you back out there. Um, And I, I just kept going. It’s like, well, you know what? I started with that one and say, this swag’s kind of cool, you know?

And you can start collecting those medals and it’s like, I like this, you know? And, [00:06:00] uh, ultimately I decided, it’s like, you know, I’d like to run a marathon. Maybe, I don’t know. I’ll do the lottery. If I do the lottery and I get in, I guess I’m doing a marathon. If I don’t get in, it’s not meant to be. I did the lottery and I got in the first time.

I was like, I guess I’m running a marathon, you know, and, um, that’s, that started the journey to my very first marathon. It took me three years to get to Chicago. Three years. I am, I’m a, I’m, I like to run a lot of bit, you know, um, I’m a racer. I like your quick five Ks, 10 Ks. I’m all about a cruise. I love a good cruise.

I’m very much happy to get out there and cruise, but I like that quick little go every now and then. A little, a little angst, a little excitement, you know? And, um, I pulled back, I PR’d in racing, [00:07:00] and I pulled back on my pace, ramped up mileage according to the plan. I trained with Kara, which is awesome.

Kara, I never quite say the name right, I’m sorry. Um, with Yankee Runners, my Yankee Runners out there. But, uh, I love the group, it’s awesome. The camaraderie is great. But, uh, my very first time around, I ended up with a femoral neck stress fracture, and it turned labrum. So that sidelined me for a while there, which was really hard for me.

And, um, healed from that, came back around, trained for a second time, took out my left femoral neck with another stress fracture after compensating for the right side. Oh yeah. I don’t think a lot of people know that, you know. I, uh, so I ultimately ended up with bilateral femoral neck stress fractures. And, uh, so last year when I got to the marathon, I put a post out right beforehand.

And I was so stoked. [00:08:00] To make the marathon every ounce of my being in that moment was like, I’ll go to a marathon, you know, it took me three years, three years to get there. And with running being as much as it is to me, it wasn’t about that. It’s not, it’s not about, it wasn’t about tackling 26. 2. It was about getting there is crossing that finish line.

It wasn’t about making it to Boston. It wasn’t about running as fast as I could. It’s about running the marathon. Get me to the starting line and I will cross the finish, you know, run, walk or crawl. I will finish and. The day that I got there and we were ready to run, it was just like that feeling stays with you, you know, the crowd, the, the, the, the vibration, the, the morale.

It’s just, it’s amazing. I’m on live twice during the Chicago marathon. I was like, I’m running a marathon and I was so amped up when I was running it that I didn’t even realize that I could do what I did. I [00:09:00] ended up running Chicago last year for the first time, and I ended up running a 336. It’s. And I was super stoked.

I had no idea. I didn’t even, but it was just the entire time I had this big smile on my face. I danced, I went live. I cheered everybody on. Um, even though I got in with the lottery, I ended up running it for Mercy Home. So I raised the money for Mercy Home. And when I reached for mile 17 and they were out there cheering me on, I was like, yes, you know, and it was huge.

I hit miles 20 to 22. And it was like, all right, guys, we got to wrap this up, you know? Um, but. I, I, I finished across the finish line and it was just like, oh my God, I ran a marathon, you know, I was like, I had so much angst and excitement about. finally making it there that I didn’t even know I was capable of doing what I did and [00:10:00] smiling. I always say smile while you’re at it because it’s like, it just, it just takes you from zero to 60,

so, as my biggest thing is trying to convey that to others. , I know how bad it can feel and just how bad things can be at times, you know, I do what I do for a reason, and I focus on the outcome of what I do, not why it is I do what I do. Cause to me, that’s not the importance of it. The importance for me is I did it.

You know what? Today might not be a great day. I might have a lot going on. You know, maybe I’m a little in my head right now. I got a lot on my plate. I’m super stressed out. Um, and I can get out there and I’ll start running and I won’t even want to do it. I don’t want to be there. I might, I might postpone 15, 20 minutes in my car and think to myself, why are you doing this 86 degrees in human, you know, you go from showered and, you know, ready to go to hot mess very, very quickly,[00:11:00]

Richard Conner: Mm hmm.

Julie Felton: but that’s beautiful.

You know, I might, I will be saturated just gross. I’m just like, yes, this feels good. You know, and I will. I’ll have an even bigger smile on my face at the end of a run than I ever did going into it because it’s in that moment I, I did what I needed to do and I showed up for me and that’s everything, by showing up for me, I show up for everybody else. And my boys are my number one. You know, and they see that. They tell me, you gonna go for a run, Mom? You know? Cause they know how happy it makes me and how good it feels.

And I love to get them out there with me too, you know? And I want them to see that, no matter what, Mom’s gonna make it. We’re gonna, you know, I will, I will, I will always show up. I will always bring it. And I’m not there to compete [00:12:00] against anybody else, just me. That’s me, that’s my moment, my momentum, my time.

And I build on that. And I want so much to show that to others, and even more so my boys. Because I want them to have that. important.

Richard Conner: Well, I loved hearing how running makes you happy and the energy that races brings you, you know, I love your story about, you know, You inspiring others and others inspiring you and getting to that starting line. So, you know, but your real focus is, is getting to the finish line. So, you know, really inspiring.

And then, you know, talking about family, that’s also very important. You know, our family will, or especially kids will mimic what we do, right. It’s not about just about what we say, but it’s about what we do. So it’s important to show up not only for ourselves, but also for them

Julie Felton: Yes. And when I have them there, when they’re there and they’re cheering me on, it’s, it’s everything. I, you know, when I ran [00:13:00] Chicago, and my family came down and my kids were lined up, And they’re all cheering me on. For 26. 2 miles, I looked for them. 26. 2 miles, I looked for them. Not knowing where they’re going to be.

I was, I was way ahead of the tracker. So my family was chasing me as much as I was running across, you know, Chicago. Um, so when they would pop up and I’d see them, I’d be like, Oh my God, you know? And my kids would be, ah, so happy and yelling. And I, and I don’t know who was more excited, them or me, you know?

And that was… That to me is everything. There’s nothing in the world that, you know, when my kids look at me like that and I know that they’re there and I, in that moment, it’s like,

yes, you know, it’s awesome. It’s amazing. Um, and I want, I want my boys to know that there’s nothing that they can’t do and not to be afraid to try. There is, there is nobody out there you’re for you. It’s about showing up. [00:14:00] It’s about, you know, I, I so barely want to convey to people to take the chance. But at least by taking a chance, you have a, there’s a chance and a possibility.

If you don’t take that chance, there is no change. It is what it is. So, putting yourself out there and following through for you is everything. Everything. Regardless of what it is that you choose to do. Show up for you. Every single time. Don’t be afraid to try new things. Take on a challenge. And then when you’re at it, you know, show everybody.

Show them what’s up. Like, hey, look what I’m doing. You could do this too. Look how good it makes you feel. You know what I mean? There’s somebody out there that needs to see that. Somebody out there that’d be like, hey, you know what? If she’s doing it, you could probably do it. Yes, you can. You know, and that’s, that’s, that’s awesome.

I think that, [00:15:00] don’t be afraid to put yourself out there. Don’t be afraid. to take on that challenge and try new things and to test the waters. And you know what, if it doesn’t work out, it doesn’t work out. But at the end of the day, it worked out because you tried, you showed up and that’s the victory.

That’s the win.

Richard Conner: For sure. For sure. Very inspiring. Well, I know our listeners are already inspired by your message here and you know, I, I’d love to just quick story about when you’re talking about the kids and cheering for you, you know, I had a race many years ago, many years ago, a few years ago, we’ll say. And I remember I was just struggling through that race.

I was chasing this kid who might’ve been like. 10 years old at the most. And I’m just watching the back of his feet for the entire race. And I remember we’re like turning the corner. We’re heading back to the school where it was actually held at my old high school and [00:16:00] maybe a 10th of the mile to go. And all I hear is go daddy, go daddy.

And I’m hearing my son and I’m like, I’m coming Andre and I’m running and I’m running and I really finished strong. And I was, you know, so excited to. Um, kind of finished out race strong, especially after just a challenging race. And then I’m looking around and I don’t, I don’t see anybody. So, you know, I waited for another family member to finish and I walked inside the school looking for my family and I found them, they were enjoying the breakfast.

So. Unfortunately, it wasn’t my son who was, uh, cheering me on, but somebody’s son was cheering for their dad, and it was enough motivation for me. So that’s a little bit of my, my

Julie Felton: It’s the momentum. Yes. Yes. It’s momentum. Is that, yes. Yes. Yes. I swing out and I give high fives to the posters that say superpower. You know, I want that Mario superpower. You know, I swing out and I give all the kids high fives on the side of the road. That’s everything. And then it, yes, [00:17:00] yes, it’s, it’s a beautiful thing.

It is. It really is. That’s awesome.

Richard Conner: for

Julie Felton: It’s an amazing feeling and I wouldn’t trade it for the

Richard Conner: So, so tell me, Julie, like through your journey, what are the, some of the things that you’ve learned, you know, through your, your running journey, what are like few things that you share, things you wish you knew before when you started, or maybe something that surprised you kind of along the way.

Julie Felton: Uh, nutrition is huge. Nutrition is, is, is a key component to. Not only, you know, overall health, but being able to do what you do and building upon doing what you’re doing especially with what, depending on what you’re training for. You know, um, So I really try to hone in on nutrition and make sure I got adequate protein intake.

Sleep is huge. I’m working on that. I’m not really good at it. I get it. I gotta, I gotta work on that a lot more. Um, but, uh, sleep is a [00:18:00] huge component of that as well. Rest and recovery. Your rest days are just as important as your training days. Rest is training. Sometimes you gotta train to rest because if there’s one thing I don’t do well, I don’t rest.

, I think protein and sleep is huge. You know, I think the big, I think too, it’s, it’s not being so hard on yourself. You, it’s so important.

You know, another thing I say a lot is if I can’t enjoy, if I can’t have fun, I don’t want to do it. Enjoy the things that you choose to do. Because it’s a choice. It’s not something you have to do. So enjoy it. You know, um, The more you enjoy it, the better you’re going to do, the more you’re going to excel, the more you’re gonna want to be, the more you want to be, the more you’re gonna want to go.

You know, and be in that moment, be present, you know, get out of your head for a little bit and focus on what it is you’re doing in that moment for you. You know, I think we get so caught up in saving the [00:19:00] world. And taking care of everyone and everything else, that we so easily lose track of taking care of ourselves.

And I wish I would have learned sooner that self care is not selfish. Self care is pivotal. Not only as, mentally, physically, and emotionally. Through and through. You know, in all the ways. And I wish that I would have realized sooner that it’s okay to take a moment for you. And there’s nothing wrong with doing that.

You know, because as much as we sideline ourselves from everybody else, you kind of need to take a moment for you too. Even more so, maybe an extra one. You know, um, I wish that I would have learned that when things start to hurt, to listen to my body a little sooner. It was a big [00:20:00] lesson for me when I took out my, uh, femur.

Um, I, you know, I was such a diehard runner and it’s, it is very much my therapy, so when I can’t run and I am sidelined, it’s huge for me. Um, that’s, you know, I definitely, there’s an impact. I feel that. Not just physically, but it’s, it’s, it’s as a whole, it’s like physically and emotionally. It’s like, oh my God, you know, this is my thing.

At the same time, it’s not a crutch, but it’s very much what carries me.

So it’s very important, you know, when something starts to hurt, like, hey, you know what, maybe we need to take, take it down a notch. If you’re, if you’re training for a race or a marathon and you gotta, you gotta tone it down, maybe step away for a little bit or maybe, you know what, this is just not meant to be right now.

It’s okay. There will be other races. There will be another day to train. And there’s always going to be more to do. But what’s more important is that you take that time to take care of you because you don’t want to take yourself out for the long term for [00:21:00] something in the interim. You know? I think everything happens for a reason and when your body starts speaking to you, we need to listen.

And, uh, just because you can’t do something right then and there or maybe at that moment, at that time, doesn’t mean you failed. Doesn’t mean you can’t do it. It just means, you know what? I gotta do something else right now. I’m meant to be doing something else right now. So, um… That was a big thing for me.

I ended up segwaying into cross training. I’ve always, you know, I got into working out too. Um, I’ve always liked working out, but I got into it a lot more. And I, that really got me into cross training a lot more. So I got into the Chicago Tri. And I did the, I signed up for the Chicago Tri. My sister in law got me there.

So cross training is huge. I would highly recommend cross training to the runners out there. It’s… I get to pull everything together. You know, pull it all together as a whole, [00:22:00] you know, the nutrition, the sleep, the cross training. It’s not like, well, well, you know, I can’t, if I can’t do all these things, I can’t run or I can’t run if I don’t do all these things.

No, this is all about moderation. It’s all about self care, self love and being kind to yourself and being kind to yourself isn’t just the mental, isn’t just the physical part of it. It’s the mentally emotional part of it too.

Richard Conner: Yeah, for sure. For sure. And you know, I love your message there, you know, about prioritizing yourself. And you think you said this before, and probably in a different way that we prioritize other people and other things. And it’s not often we prioritize ourselves. And it’s okay to do that, right?

It’s okay to you. Spend time, you know, working on yourself physically and mentally and emotionally, um, so you could be a better person. You could show up better for those you love or those in your life. So I definitely appreciate you sharing that. And, you know, some of the tips around nutrition and sleep and recovery [00:23:00] and.

Knowing, listening to your body. So if you’re injured or if you’re on a path to getting injured, listening to your body and taking steps to, to prevent that, uh, super, super important. Um, because yeah, if you overdo it, if you overtrain, you can get injured and it is kind of part of the process, but you can also take steps to, to avoid it as well, so really, really important tips and lessons that

you’ve learned. That’s

Julie Felton: Yes. And I’m learning every day. Good shoes. Get good shoes. Shoes are, shoes are very important. Um, yeah, I, I learn every day. Every time I’m out there I learn, you know, I’m learning new things about myself, or my form, or how I could improve, or maybe I need to pull back on this, or maybe, you know, maybe I just don’t do this today.

Because there’s always something else I could do. And maybe, you know, maybe, maybe my, my thing today is to do nothing. Maybe my thing today [00:24:00] is to have a movie night with my kids. You know,

I’m figuring it out as I go,

Richard Conner: so, so tell me, Julie, you know, what would you say was the biggest obstacle kind of during your running journey and how’d you overcome it?

Julie Felton: I think wanting to do it all and not being able to, there’s, there’s so much I want to do and there’s only so much time in the day, you know, I don’t just, I don’t just want to run around on a cross train. I want to, I want to bike and I want to swim and I want to lift and I want to do this and I want to do that.

I want to be, I want to be that mom that’s, that’s very much present in that moment and always there and that’s, you know, and fully involved. And at the same time, I’m also a full time nurse, you know, so I’m a full time mom, full time nurse. I’m, I try to get that run and I want to get that workout and I want to be present for my kids.

What are we having for dinner? What’s bathbed? Repeat. You know, my day starts at 4 a. m. My kids are up just after 5. I go run around work for 8 hours. I try to run around outside for just a little bit. You know, it’s just, it’s just [00:25:00] all the time, you know. It’s carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders without letting it drag you down.

And I think that I constantly have to remind myself that it’s okay to slow down. You can’t do it all. It’s enough. If I could do everything that I wanted to do and just make it all happen, I would do it in a heartbeat and I can’t, and it’s acknowledging the fact that I just, I can’t, but I try and I’m going to keep trying and I’m going to, you know, keep showing up and I’m going to keep moving forward regardless, you know, I will, I will find a way.

Richard Conner: Okay, so what’s next for you, Julie? You know, I know you talked about Boston a few times. I don’t know if that’s in your future or, you [00:26:00] know, what keeps you moving and what’s next for you?

Julie Felton: Um, so I have a, I’m going to do the Naperville sprint triathlon coming up. That’s, I’m going to do that. I got that in a couple of weeks. I’m excited. So I decided I would do the Chicago try again, but then I also thought, you know, maybe I would check out these sprints. That’s kind of cool. It’s even shorter distance.

It’s even better. Um, because I can’t ultimately, I can’t do all the running for a marathon. I can’t do all the training I have to cross train. My body just doesn’t tolerate. And I know that now. And that’s the one of the ways that I have, you know, acclimated to training for the marathon is that you don’t have to run every run, you can swim, you can bite, you can lift, you could take a rest day, you know, um, so I’m going to cross chain and I got some, I got the sprint coming up and I’m going to do the Chicago Olympic again and actually, since you asked, August 5th [00:27:00] at Guaranteed Wake Park, Guaranteed Wake Field, uh, home of the White Sox.

Yeah. I will be participating in the Run Your Socks Off 5K. So, if you want to come run, come run with me. Come have fun. You want to run around Guaranteed Rate Field, White Socks. You finish on the concourse. It’s kind of cool. The big green fuzzy dude is going to be there. Um, there’s a discount code in my name, JulieRise5, number 5, and you can get a discount.

And you can come run August 5th, 9am, Guaranteed Rate Field, Home of the White Socks. It’s pretty cool. Um, that’s really cool. That was like, that was super exciting when they reached out to me. I was like, sure I could do that. You know? Um, and then I have Chicago training for Chicago. So now it’s, it’s for me, Chicago, the marathon is my a [00:28:00] race, you know, the, the try the Chicago try is my B.

So this next sprint I have coming up is my seat. These are, you know, it’s everything I take it in steps. You know, I have my big goal. And I have the stepping stones to get there. And the stepping stones are the things that I’m hoping will help me to maintain so that I can get to the marathon, you know? I, I have no intentions of running the marathon in any set time.

I always just, I never have any intentions of, you know, people are like, what are you going to pace today? What’s your plan? You know, what do you want to do? I’m like, I’m just going to finish. I’m just going to do the best I can. Uh, that’s it. Uh, because you know what I mean?

Richard Conner: Yeah,

Julie Felton: I always show up and do the best that I can.

That’s it. That’s it. At the end of the day, I don’t, I’m not going to the Olympics. In more parts, the people that are, that’s awesome. I’m not, but you know, so ultimately at the end of the day, I just, I want to show up. I want to run [00:29:00] my run. I want to do my race. I want to have fun and I’m going to smile while I’m at it.

And when I finish, I finish, you know, that is my medal. That is my, my victory and my ultimate goal. So I want to get Chicago. I want to make it to the marathon. I want to get to that starting line and I will cross the finish. I don’t know how long it’ll take me. It probably won’t be pretty. I won’t do the pickle juice.

I learned that last year. Never try something for the first time during a race.

Richard Conner: no, no, that is

Julie Felton: That’s a big tip right there. There’s a tip right there. Don’t do it.

Richard Conner: Okay.

Julie Felton: little tip. Don’t try anything for the first time.

Richard Conner: Yes, yes,

Julie Felton: I hope to see you guys out there.

Richard Conner: Well, I was going to say, you know, hopefully We’ll try to get this episode out before then. So, you know, we’ll, we’ll promote you and the race. And, um, uh, so on August 5th, I think you mentioned, so that’s pretty cool. And, you know, just kind of as we wind down here, so I definitely enjoyed this conversation.

You have a [00:30:00] lot of inspiring messages for our community and the lessons learned, uh, are super helpful for someone who may not be as far along in their journey, um, definitely gave some really great tips there. So I appreciate that. So. Julie, how can our community find you and follow your journey online?

Julie Felton: Well, you can find me on Instagram. I am on Instagram under JulieRiseAboveRunner. And then you can find me on Facebook. I’m under Julie Felton. That’s F as in Frank, E L T O N. So you can find me on Facebook, or you can find me on Instagram, um, my Instagram is where I probably post the most. So julieriseaboverunner on Instagram, come follow me. If you see me at a race, say hi! Smile. I’m just, I think that’s one of the things too, is like, you know, I never expected things to take off kind of like they did.

You know, I don’t do anything to promote anything that I do. I just post, that’s it. You know? And um, I’ve met some people at races and you know, they’re like, Oh my [00:31:00] gosh, you know, it’s so nice to meet you. I am, I am no different than you. I am no different than anybody else. I am you, you know, it’s so come over, say hi, come run with me.

You know, it is just. Get out there and have fun. Smile while you’re at it, because when you smile at that other person, they smile at somebody else, you know. It’s a chain reaction. It’s a beautiful thing, and when you, when you do, you lead the way, and when you lead the way, you light the way for others, and people follow, you know, and I think that, uh, that’s probably one of the greatest gifts there is, you know, to get to a smile.

I don’t know, sounds corny, but that’s me.

Richard Conner: I think it’s wonderful. Keep smiling. Definitely. Uh, appreciate you sharing your story here. I will put your information in the show notes to make it easy for our listeners to find you. Good luck at your races. Good luck with your training. And again, thank you so much, Julie, for coming on the show and have a great day.[00:32:00]

Julie Felton: Thank you so much, Richard, for having me. You too.